Defining God and the source of morality

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Defining God and the source of morality

This I took from https://beliefmap.org, a site that claims to answer "Life biggest questions". What is your opinion about these two things?

Defining God

In Western philosophy, God is supposed to be the “greatest possible being”—maximally worthy of worship.Theism is the view that such an entity actually exists. (Atheism is the view that God does not exist).

In virtue of God's unsurpassable greatness then, God is plausibly understood to be the singular all-good, all-powerful, all-knowing, everlasting (or eternal), perfectly free creator of the Universe.

Moreover, God's existence is supposed to not depend on anything else. If this all-good God exists, then God naturally loves you and entering into divine fellowship with God is central to your greatest good, purpose, and fulfillment.

Source of Morality

Step 1. If God really exists, then the likelihood that God in His goodness would take steps to bring about the greatest goods is significantly higher than a 1% chance.

Step 2. Whether in fiction or reality, the greatest goods require a community of embodied moral agents in a moral arena.
Moral arena = def. A community of persons—not necessarily humans—in circumstances where they can engage in moral decision-making, and can interact and mold themselves in morally significant ways. (Note: the “morality” here can be illusory, so a moral arena can exist even if objective morality does not.)

Step 3. Therefore, if God exists, there is a greater than 1% chance that God would bring about a community of embodied moral agents in a moral arena.

Step 4. By contrast, the likelihood of such an arena existing on the assumption of atheism is far lower than 1%. To see this, multiply the improbabilities of (a spatio-temporal world existing) x (of it being life-permitting) x (of life appearing in it) x (of life developing consciousness) x (and moral awaress). This leaves a lot out and yet already it seems far lower than 1%.

With this thinking in mind, consider all the evidences for theism below and judge for yourself whether our observations are more probable on theism than atheism.

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Step 4. By contrast, the
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More babble. Aperez's partial
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You wrote: Theism is the
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well if this counts as proof
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Mick, from where did you get
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Again, Mick, you keep saying
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"well if this counts as proof
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1 "degree" closer? Do you
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@Mick: "6,000 facts that
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To everybody:
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@aperez241
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I am an atheist though I do
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Don't think that you can tell
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Go get your senile dementia
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Okay aperez.
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Right after you.
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I know you feel like you've
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Myk asked a simple and legit
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Nobody screams at me.
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Is that what this about? A
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Can't we all just get along?
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MICK - Fact : Did you know
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"Atheism is the view that God

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