Caste System and its Reality in India

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Caste System and its Reality in India

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EWWW! Nice post. I rarely

EWWW! Nice post. I rarely get to rant on the EVILS of Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism.

LET'S START WITH REBIRTH:
A stupid idea with no evidence supporting it. That which is asserted without evidence can be rejected without evidence. A person stating that they have been reborn is not evidence, any child can be trained to make that claim. It's a silly idea.

THE TRUE HORROR OF THESE FAITHS IS KARMA:
I currently live in Korea and have experienced the effects of Buddhism and Karma directly. If your child is born retarded or deformed it is because of something you have done in a past life to earn a deformed child. In this case you want to ship the child away, or kill it, as quick as you can to avoid letting your neighbors know of your Karma. Until very recently (I imagine it is still happening) handicapped kids where shipped away to islands where they were never given an education and trained to pick fruit or some other form of manual labor. In the system of Karma, if you are born poor, it is for a reason. If you are born rich, it is your duty to live above others, rule over them, and of course be better than them. Karma is directly responsible for the Cast system in India as well as the quieter one in Korea. Yes, Korea too has a social Cast system. All the Koreans know about it even if the foreigners do not see it. I can not express my hatred of this fked up concept strong enough. It is the direct cause of ignorance, poverty, and suffering in the Eastern World.

Moksh and Nirvana:
The same stupid concepts of heaven, bliss, peace, that all other religions have. Lead a good life, limit your reincarnations and eventually you will be free from the process of birth and death.

WHAT'S GOOD:
I studied Shito-ryu Karate for 25 years and was heavy into ZEN for a while. While I have thrown out the majority of Buddhist teachings, I frequently run through my books of Koans. There is something about a good Koan that allows one to reflect on life, the self and the world around. We are like the Buddhist monk who fell from a cliff and found himself hanging from an outcrop. Below him were a pride of hungry lions and there was no way to crawl back to the top. As the garments suspending him from the cliff began to rip, he noticed a small strawberry plant growing there on the side of the mountain with one ripe strawberry on it. He reached out his hand, plucked the strawberry and popped it into his mouth.

This is a wonderful Zen story. One of my favorites. "Life is here and now. Live it."

There are bits of wisdom here and there in most religions. Find what you can and use it. There is nothing wrong with the idea of treating others as you would like them to treat you. Just don't expect it. When you turn something good into dogma it is destroyed.

This may be the real problem with Eastern religions like those mentioned. They have all been turned to dogma. They all posses the truth. And we know that truth to be un-falsifiable dogma that is based on faith and nothing more.

MCDennis's picture
is the caste system based on

is the caste system based on religion?

Cognostic's picture
Yes! Specifically "Karma."

Yes! Specifically "Karma." You are born into the cast you deserve based on past lives. You can not escape your Karma.

Nyarlathotep's picture
First I should say my

First I should say my knowledge of the caste system is quite limited.

But from what I've read it seems the "top caste" in the system is priests. Anyone think that is a coincidence?

Cognostic's picture
NOPE: Of course the priests

NOPE: Of course the priests would put themselves at the top. Plato's Republic (Plato the Philosopher) put philosophers in charge of the perfect society. The modern Amereican Police force puts Cops as the ruling force in society. And .... let's face the facts..... don't most atheists think the world would be a better place if critical thinking, logical, reasonable, non-theists were the ones in charge of making the rules?

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