@ Fergie

I knew it! Is this the last, last, last, last, ultimate post from the poseur extraordinaire?

One can only hope....

Sat, 07/13/2019 - 09:38 ferguson1951 "Three hours from now I shall post my last message"

Sun, 07/14/2019 - 22:19 ferguson1951 "(irrelevant disjointed rant removed)"

Does that superstitious archaic tome you keep quoting have anything to say about liars and lying?

@Ferguson 1951 "Wild World"

That song was written before Cat Stevens converted to Islam, but it already shows hints of the male condescension that we associate with Islamic culture. ("And I'll always remember you like a child, girl")

This man was a supremely talented singer-songwriter who created a string of classic songs about life, love, and human relationships before falling prey to the perversion of Islam. Were you aware, Ferguson, that he several times endorsed the Fatwah against Salman Rushdie?

So I'm wondering why you, who are apparently a Christian, quoted the full lyrics of this song, and why you thought it was relevant here. Somehow I associate you more with "Moon Shadow" or "I Love My Dog".

@noreason

"I would say some atheist have faith in their beliefs like some other faiths."

I would say you have noreason to say that.

noreason "I wouldn't say atheism is a faith like any other faith, I would say some atheist have faith in their beliefs like some other faiths."

Some atheists choose to have beards. What exactly does that tell us about atheism?

Noreason

“I wouldn't say atheism is a faith like any other faith, I would say some atheist have faith in their beliefs like some other faiths.”

The word “Faith” has become strongly associated with religion, where it typically means belief without evidence.

Atheists believe all sorts of things. Most atheists believe that the established explanations and theories of science are probably true (evolution, relativity, quantum theory for example). But atheists believe those things upon vast mountains of tried and tested evidence (many things around us in the world today only work or can only be explained if those scientific theories are correct or else very, VERY close to correct).

So faith is really the wrong the word to use when talking about what atheists believe. Just as faith would be the wrong word if you said scientists were using faith to tell us what we should believe.

Religious preachers are however relying entirely upon “Faith”, ie belief in things that are not supported by evidence. And nowadays (due to the progress of science over the last 100 to 150 years) that actually means belief in religious claims that are in direct conflict with all known evidence from science.

I suspect admin won't like this. No citation, not even quotation marks.

Personally I prefer Sympathy With The Devil, or Paint It Black.

You might want to delete it, or at least give a proper citation.

It also violates another forum guideline as it has no relevance to the topic at hand. Admin are pretty laid back on that one, but I suspect if you keep flooding threads with song lyrics that have no relevance and without citing the lyricist, they will do what you lied about doing, and end your facile preening egotistical rants.

So Ferguson 1951 is still trolling, and still lying about leaving. Quelle surprise, if he had any cogent thoughts he would have posted them by now.

Note he quotes the bible again, but continues to ignore my question as to whether it condemns his duplicity. Note also he cherry picks another Einstein quote, yet failed to respond when I posted an excerpt from one of Einstein's letters citing the bible's stories as childish fables for the weak minded.

Dishonest to the end will probably be etched on his gravestone. Though the words "and deluded" could just as easily be added to his epitaph.

What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity, Ferguson?

The Devil went down to Georgia on the highway to hell, but decided to take a detour at the crossroads along the way. Just three miles from the rest stop he slammed on the brakes, because he felt a little unwell. And it was there on that long lonesome highway east of Omaha that he noticed a sign pointing toward the stairway to Heaven. Well, since he was feeling that way, he decided to make the journey as faithfully as he could. "After all," he told himself, "these boots were made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do."

So, before he knew it, the Devil was knockin' on Heaven's door. From behind the door he heard a female voice calling out, "Somebody's knockin'! Should I let him in?" Then after a brief pause, the same voice exclaimed, "Lord, it's the Devil! Would you look at him? I've heard about him, but I never dreamed he'd have blue eyes and blue jeans!" Eventually the door opened, and there stood Terri Gibbs wearing an itsy-bitsy teenie-weenie yellow polka dot bikini. Somewhat startled, the Devil took one step forward, then two steps back, because he knew opposites attract. He suddenly thought, "Oo, oo, oo, I'm on fire," and felt like he was headed into a tunnel of love.

A brief, but awkward, sound of silence followed, after which the Devil found himself asking, "Uh, do you know the way to San Jose?" A bit perplexed, Terri stepped through the doorway, pointed to her left, and answered, "Uh, yeah, it's just three doors down." Totally embarrassed by his blunder, the Devil suddenly yelled, "Abracadabra!" Then there was a bright flash, and a huge puff of white smoke like a magic dragon! As the smoke cleared, the Devil felt like a free bird, and he decided to fly like an eagle to the sea where he intended to live in a yellow submarine and explore the octopus gardens. The End.