I am writing this response as my final answer to his last reply on my eggs topic. Even though I had concluded my last post there by admitting my mistake and some atheists like Cognostic and oldmanshouts respectfully appreciated my hardwork in understanding things, Sheldon still went on to insult me and point out how dishonest I was.
@Sheldon: I have no words for how rude you are. It is sad to know that this community really does have some super nasty people due to which people now have to specifically mention in their topics that they are looking for a "respectful atheist" to discuss about whatever they wish to discuss.
Anyhow, as per what you were looking for, here you go. I do owe you an apology for being unable to understand the mentioned fallacy despite its repetitive mention by you in my eggs thread. I have realized, thanks to you, that even though it was not my fault to be born into such a religion and go through unfair events, it is still my responsibility to learn the truth, accept my mistakes when wrong and move on with life.
By the way, I still don't know why you would make a reference to "theists like Jo" in your last reply and again go on to compare me with him.
Anyways, I have spent some good time here and I got great respect for most of the atheists on this platform for their patience, humility and the ability to answer questions without criticizing the questioner.
This post is not intended to make anyone feel pity about me or blabla. Keep that shit to yourself. I choose to not return as long as bullies like Sheldon are present here. I have been regularly reading the questions of other users and what I found was some fellows attempting to answer respectfully while others making an utter mockery of the questioner. I did not sign up to be a part of a community where people don't have the patience to answer a question in a nice way.
Good bye and have fun. I will proudly remain an atheist, learning more and more. Really thankful to the people who helped me respectfully and recommended me several books to aid me on my journey.
This is ex-Muslim, Seek3R, signing off and wishing everyone the best of luck in their lives, theists and atheists included.
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@The time to leave isn't after you figure something out.. That's the time you pat yourself on the back and say "I FINALLY GOT IT!" And Sheldon was more of an asshole than Cog? That just defies logic. ..... Well.......... I have been sick lately..
____________ ________ Sheldon for knocking me out of first place, you ______________ _________, Your father was a hamster and your mother stank of elderberries. I fart in your general direction, After years of finely tuned poo flings, I have to start all over again. SHIT!
I have huge respect for you mate. Atleast you admitted your mistake.
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@Seek
Damn, dude! Why leave now? If you have finally made your breakthrough in understanding, then that is the best time to hang around and learn more. Beyond that, though, it is an opportunity to use your experience and newfound knowledge to help others who are struggling with the same problems you have conquered. Personally, I have found that to be one of the more satisfying perks of hanging around this joint.
Sure, Sheldon can be an ass at times. So what? We all are every now and then. Besides, you said yourself that Sheldon allowed you to realize a couple of important things that helped you. I have to agree with Cog, though, in that he is a MUCH bigger asshole than Sheldon. While Sheldon does sometimes wield a razor-edged dry sarcasm that appeals to me greatly (Actually, I'm a little jealous of his talent for such.), that Cog bastard is just a viscious sadistic turd-burglar. Oh, and he SMELLS horrible. At least Sheldon has good personal hygiene habits. As for Old Man, we all just kinda humor him most of the time to make him feel good about himself. (But don't tell him I said that. Shhh... *finger over lips*...)
Anyway, your choice of whether or not to leave, but just make sure you are leaving for the right reasons if you do. Personal opinion here, but I think you would be throwing away a chance to help others and learn more if you leave. But, again, your choice.
Edited a couple of times for grammar mistakes.
@TIN: I'll have you know my hygiene habits are top notch! I pick my teeth with twigs after every meal and I bathe regularly, every year, at Christmas time whether I need a bath or not. I am prepping for my annual bath at this very moment. And for your information "Horrible" is not a smell. It is a subjective judgment. I carry with me the fine scents of jungle fauna with a hint of banana breath and that is a hell of a lot better than stinking like an old oil can full of stinky rust! When was the last time you were around soap and water? HAH! I rust,,,, umm.... rest my case!
@Cog
For your information, Mr. Stinky Pants, I happen to go to the local drive-thru car wash once a week. And since I am a regular customer there, they were nice enough to install a giant oil tub for me to jump into immediately after I exit the wash area. So there!... *sticking out tongue*... Oh, and if I had to guess, I would say you SKIPPED last year's bath. All things considered, I bet you leave one helluva ring around the lake in which you bathe. But I just have to ask... How do you sleep with a clear conscious knowing you wipe out so many new and fascinating biological communities that develop and evolve in your fur between those annual baths? It must be like some horrific version of Noah's flood for the poor critters when you jump into the water. That's just cruel, dude.
Ha! Jokes on you. The other monkeys have been picking the little critters out of my fur for over a month now and will continue to do so until Dec. 25. No critters are harmed in the annual bathing ceremony. Everyone who has ever watched a TV program are completely aware of this monkey behavior. I SLEEP FINE! And monkeys bath in rivers not in lakes.
I didn't need a bath last year. Have you heard anyone complain up to this point. NO! Sweet Jungle fauna is the sent of green grass and gardens after a soft spring rain. Everyone loves it. Not like the stinky scent of an oil covered toaster.
@Cog
Ohhhhhhh... I seeeee... *nodding head in understanding*.... So, instead of drowning all those poor little critters, your friends pick them off and EAT them. Got it. Much more humane. Glad we got that cleared up.
And you bathe in a RIVER??? Aw, shit. Does the EPA know about this? At least in a lake all the filth can be contained and remain somewhat local. But a river.... Geeez... Hmmm... Well, that would certainly explain the yearly epidemic of strange illnesses that occur along the banks downriver from your bath site. Mystery solved.
@Tin: The EPA is much less concerned with monkey's in rivers than oil baths behind gas stations that are next to bars of ill repute. That's right we did a bit of research and discovered your Gas station. The PI got the pics. ........ You are a sick, sick, sick Tin.
I'll stick to my river.
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HAH-HAH-HAH!... SUCKER! Way to go, banana brain! You need to fire your PI, by the way. That pool in the pic is nowhere near my gas station car wash. Just so happens that pic was taken at a private party of a very wealthy businessman, and he HIRED me to be there. For your information, I am a licensed Aqua-aerator. Matter of fact, I am on-call several weeks out of the year with several large tourist aquariums all across the country. Whenever they have to take one of their aerators off-line for maintenance or technical problems, they call me to fill in until the work is done. Wouldn't want all those expensive fishies to die from lack of oxygen. I'm rated for pools/tanks up to 75,000 gallons. Really good money in it, by the way. I do the little parties like the pic you have just for the entertainment value and a little extra party money on the side. Hope your PI didn't charge you too much for that pic.... SUCKER!... LMAO.....
@Tin: Soooo...... yer just sayin ...... you really are just a "blow hard?"
@Cog Re: "...yer just sayin ...... you really are just a "blow hard?""
Ahem... *clearing throat*... The correct term is "Turbocharged Air Propulsion Specialist", thank you very much.
@Seek3R
Sorry to see you go. I wish you the best in life, and encourage you if you are interested to come back and read and post here every once in a while.
It is the internet, while we should all strive for civility and respect, I learned long ago: what people say and do when their anonymity is near guaranteed should not affect you in any way. As long as you do not put any personal information up, you are utterly safe from harm, except what you let others inflict upon you in their anonymous writings.
Sure some folks on these boards are a bit gruff and possibly rude at times. But no one is getting hurt.
I personally started off with every theist should be met with kindness, patience and understanding. But even I get jaded by the constant stream of drive by preachers, sock puppets, and theist coming in thinking they are coming riding "the high horse" and use that as a "weapon" on people they consider lesser then.
Religion is a lie, and many people use this lie for their own gain. Sometimes, it is better to not be polite about it all, when for 1000's of years these religious preachers have been running roughshod on all humans that are caught up in the lie.
@Seek3R,
I think it foolish for you to leave. You have progressed so much in the short time you have been here (as I have) and that's a measure of your integrity and honesty, but what you have gained, you gained HERE at AR, discussing issues with a group of people sharing your journey through reason. That includes Sheldon, grumpy old bugger that he is..
I assume you are familiar with the baby bird and the wolf fable?
Bird falls out of nest into the snow. He freezes. A cow taking pity, dumps a pile of warm shit on it. A wolf comes, cleans the smelly shit off the bird and promptly eats him. Moral: Just because someone puts shit on you does not mean they are not interested in your welfare.
In the long run you will find Sheldon being more useful to you than the rest of us, no matter how friendly we might be. Don't think for a moment that Sheldon insults you because he doesn't like you. He doesn't even know you or even who you are. Its because he is telling his truth and you should face it. You are not obliged to accept his truth, but you should stand and consider it because, unpleasant as it might seem to you, it is likely, as with all criticism we receive from anyone, to improve us and our outlook on things especially ourselves.
Sheldon should not be the reason you leave this forum.
One person, out of many, insults you and you want to ditch the dialogue and company of the many?
If nothing else, you risk offending the rest of us poor heathens, more than Sheldon has offended you.
Are you going to run away from everyone else you meet who offends or insults you forever?
Theism and atheism are passionate subjects. If the discussions did not get a little wild at times here on AR, I would think something was wrong.
And consider this, there is a great balance between the sensible discourse, the fierce disputes, the amount and wealth of useful information freely given and the humour on this forum that clearly outweighs anything you might allow yourself to be offended by.
Stay. I guarantee you wont find a better place to discuss atheism or share support of it in this overwhelmingly and intolerant theist world.
^^^^^Hey, Seek! What Grin said! ^^^^^