Appologise for weak english in advance. I am looking for existence of God and but still failed to find God. But I have some questions who confusing me.
How this complex universe system is working automatically?
How human internal body system is working automatically?
how a child becomes alive in stomatch of woman and after some time when that child becomes a man and dies after some time why he/she can,t alive again after death while he/she can alive from lifeless things?
If there is God who is running these whole systems then who created God?
I am muslim from Pakistan and keep me secret because most of peoples here are not free thinkers. That,s why i am not using my real name here.
Waiting for your answer.
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Studying science will answer most of your questions and you fail to find god because god doesn't exist. Science doesn't answer all questions, but religion was made up just to control and make money. It's nice that you want to start thinking for yourself and not allow an ancient book control your thinking
Yes you right science did provide so many question's answer which we don't get from God's followers but still I think some points which we never get answer from Science specially people who say they have seen God.
I don,t beleive some one has seen God. Who says he/she saw God is lieng. If there is God then how he/she can bear killing of humans and other animals while in this world many peoples are killed daily. but question is where from the materials of this universe came and who created this all like mountains, water, dust, stars etc.
If you would like I can discuss these with you on Skype or Google Hangout. If you are interested, send me a private message so we can share contacts and come up with a time.
I have sympathy for you in your isolation, I live on a tiny Island with only 1300 people, it is very hard to talk out loud or hold a different opinion without getting a bad name so I know how you feel. science can answer a lot of questions, but of course not every and all, there is no guide to life in 3 easy steps, Science is proving and explaining more and more, making the unknown easier to comprehend, once upon time flight was impossible, now we defy gravity all the time, but to explain just how a plane flies takes time, that is like your questions, it can be explained just not in a few words.
I think you would benefit from studying basic cosmology and human embryonic development. Basic cell division - mitosis and meiosis - will go a long way towards understanding.
The question you have to which I will respond is the one about a God that "runs things," and who created this God. This question hits to the very root of what seems to be confusing you - how the complex universe could have happened on its own. Isn't it too complex to have happened on its own...wouldn't it need a designer?
The problem with this line of reasoning is that any being capable of designing and creating the universe (God) would also be so complex as to require a designer and creator (another God)...and so on and so forth, into infinity. The viewpoint that complexity requires a creator requires one to posit the existence of an infinite number of creators, each one more complex than the last.
Yes this is more confusing that if God made this universe then God is also more complex in design and who designed this God he/she is more complex and who created him/her is more complex and so on. But i am confusing who created all materials in this universe where from these all materials came from i confusing too much here..........
In Quran Allah(God) says i love a human 70 times more than his/her mother. Question is A mother can,t bear killing of her children. While in this world a lot of peoples are killed daily then how God is bearing this while God loves us 70 times more than our real mother. But one question more is material of this universe came from where? and who created this material. If God created this material then who created God.
You are absolutely rite. No mother can punish her child by throwing him/her in fire. not to mention for eternity.
This claim does not make any sense. Even mother of hitler wont approve an eternal hell for him. I believe not even the victimised jews recommend or be happy about hitler in hell for eternity. and then the claim that god loves you 70 times more than the relation of a mother a mother whose love is still undefined and unlimited.
and then telling people that they will go to hell for little things like not praying all the five times with jamat.
myrobt
God has given us free will..
You say While in this world a lot of peoples are killed daily then how God is bearing this while God loves us 70 times more than our real mother.
Answer is simple : God does not want to interfere in our free will...
If a god doesn't interfere with free will, of what use is that god?
If I were to see thousands of children starving (such as in the Sudan) due to the war going on there, I would feed them (and I wouldn't require them to ask or pray in a particular way as a pre-requisite for their food). That's the difference between me and your "god"...and why I am provably morally superior.
AntigoneRisen Yes you right friend.
If there were thousands of children starving (such as in the Sudan) due to the war going on there. Then what type of free will is there in children. If God exists then he/she must protect those children because they are children they don,t have sense of what to do and not to do and even they don,t know what is bad and what is good.
If a god doesn't interfere with free will, of what use is that god?
If I were to see thousands of children starving (such as in the Sudan) due to the war going on there, I would feed them (and I wouldn't require them to ask or pray in a particular way as a pre-requisite for their food). That's the difference between me and your "god"...and why I am provably morally superior.
George Carlin
“Religion has actually convinced people, that there's an invisible man... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do, every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time...
But he loves you... He loves you...
He loves you, and he needs money!"
According to your answer. God gave us free will and he/she guided us in holy books. He/she told us in holy books if we shall conduct good acts then we shall have paradise after this life and if we shall do bad acts then we shall be in hell after this life.
But question is why God wants to examine us?
Why God wants to examine us while we can,t think bad/good without God,s whish?
We can,t do good/bad acts without God,s wish then for what pupose is free will?
Daughter of Haw...
According to your answer. God gave us free will and he/she guided us in holy books. He/she told us in holy books if we shall conduct good acts then we shall have paradise after this life and if we shall do bad acts then we shall be in hell after this life.
But question is why God wants to examine us?
Why God wants to examine us while we can,t think bad/good without God,s whish?
We can,t do good/bad acts without God,s wish then for what pupose is free will?
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” - Epicurus
Do anyone ask his teacher why we need to write the examination...??
Teacher takes examination of student so that he can check his student studied or not. If student did not studied then he shall be punished by teacher. But my question is some different. If human can,t do something without God,s wish then why examination.
Students give exams because they are free to write anything in exams and teacher can,t control student,s brain at writing in exams. I hope you have understand my question. Please answer honestly.
Why God wants to examine us while we can,t think bad/good without God,s whish?
We can,t do good/bad acts without God,s wish then for what pupose is free will?
Muslims beleive God created evil and God can stop evil but he/she want to examine humans whether humans follow God or not.
But question is why God want to examine humans while humans can,t do and also can,t think without God,s wish then what examination?
God does not want to interfere in the free will is the only excuse left to defend in certain cases my friend. Why was he showing off around pharoah and Kuffar in the battle of 300 muslims against 1000 and many other historical and religios miracles we talk about. And allthose miracles which we keep mentioning about the incidents that happen around us.
when someone is getting screwed God suddenly does not want to interfere in our freewill not to mention the freewill of the victim is being compromised in that act.
My stand point is not that if there is a god he should interfere in every bad act. this is just a reply to the excuse you have given believing that this is really whats happening.
I am proud that you are questioning your Muslim beliefs. If you were to ask me about the universe and how it began and why we see all these materials I would say."I don't know!" I don't know how this universe began but not knowing for me is a better answer then an all powerful supernatural creator. If you really want to find these answers you should read some astronomy and cosmology books for the layman. You can study these topics and maybe, create a theory of yor own! Religion has been pulling a curtain over reasoning and science and kept to their childish beliefs, so many people don't have access to this fast communication we call Internet. Since you do, explore!
Nicolas Valencia
I must study astronomy and cosmology books then may i shall come to know what is something about universe.
They also have some very good videos on Youtube.
Once i watched in tv a young man who tried to rape dead woman,s body. He eneterd in some woman,s grave to rape her dead body. When he entered in grave at night he saw green lights in woman,s eyes. He afraid after seeing green lights in eyes of dead woman. When he came out of grave after seeing green light he was afraid and in this situation some one looked him in graveyard near open grave and he was arrested by police. This incident happened in karachi in pakistan.
That young man told this story in tv and he told he already has raped 100 dead womens in graveyard. I listened that story live in tv. That man is now in prison.
What reality can be behind in this story. He did not look any light before that woman while raping other dead womens.
What story may be behind this story?
You can also watch this story on youtube but it is in urdu language.
My friend i would recommend you should stop watching this kind of crap as most of this is fake and is made to get TV ratings.
You should watch educational documentaries or debates on topics like science, astronomy, discovery of space and other religious or atheist debates in which people of different faith or no faith confront each other.
That will educate you more rather than any TV reality shows. which may only confuse you.
Weird. I think the mind has a lot of questions that it does not need answers for. Furthering that thought, to what end would the answers serve? The knowledge of all things begets additional questions and so on to infinity. Of what advantage are these answers in the lives of us all? We are finite. We know enough to know we need to be better towards each other without questioning why that is. That is sufficient to begin, exist and conclude our individual lives within the bounds of a successful social harmony.
But, that's not the way it is. Until that happens look to ways of bringing it to fruition instead of seeking answers that can only be self-serving and, by that claim to fame, a selfish quest.
In the overall schemes of man his belief systems will continue to be divisive because that is their primary purpose. Ridding humanity of its divisiveness should be its only focus. At the moment gods and religions are pretenses man uses to disguise his weaknesses and inability to live with himself in peace. Call it the primordial programming to kill to survive if you need to place blame somewhere for his innate barbarism.
Our curiosity is limitless and probably our undoing. What cannot answer with fact we fashion into stories from imagination. When those stories conflict people defend their opinions with violence upon each other. Very silly. But, that silliness exists because man has to have answers to his questions now rather than wait for the arrival of knowledge.
Wait. You do not need the answers you seek. Just know that man is a primitive animal in many ways and will behave in violently unpredictable ways. He is the only living creature that kills his own species for sport or convenience. That is not the mark of a higher order of animal. Live happy but be careful.
Robot...
if you don't want any reference from the Quran then I would suggest you a book to read 'purpose of the creation' by A.A.B.Phillips.
On the internet you can try to find books translated into Urdu. Can you read Arabic? I know those are available. If not, I can try to ask my friends for Urdu resources.
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