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matheist: "What's so funny about it?"
I don't know. Maybe your complete lack of being to speak in a cogent fashion? Perhaps your complete lack of reading comprehension?
rmfr
"Therefore, what's wrong when ancient people refer to Energy as the Light or Allah?"
Because you have not proven your god exists.
"What's so funny about it?"
It is funny, because you are trying to use an entity that has no proof of existing, to try and prove its existence...and you don't even realize it...that is just plain circularly stupid, and to me, who understands and uses reason, is hilarious.
Allah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
You're saying Energy does not exist?
"You're saying Energy does not exist?"
No, you misunderstand people because you are deluded and unable to reasonably see truths, because of your cognitive bias toward the stupid belief that all things are from a god that can not be proven.
What I am saying, is that your god does not exist.
There are probably hundreds of different variations regarding "vampires" doesnt mean they exist.
Irregardless, energy in the realm of physics is the capacity for doing work.
So it could therefore exist in potential, kinetic, thermal, electrical, chemical, nuclear, or other various forms.
That is all.
What you are proposing is utter bollocks.
Energy is "1" ("the capacity for doing work")
Say, Energy, is One. (Quran 112:1)
He made all gods (energy) same god (one). (Quran 38:5)
We believe in what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to you, and your God ("the capacity for doing work", Energy) and our God (Allah, Light, Energy) is ONE AND THE SAME. We are Muslims wholly submitted to Him/Energy. (Quran 29:46)
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So what is the merit of your argument?
Because Energy is the force from chemical or physical resources...
Therefore you God, Allah... would require these processes in order to form and thus not be anything special, essentially a byproduct.
I'm happy with that.
Stop cherry picking from your daft man made book and offer actual empirical evidence.
"We believe in what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to you, and your God and our God is ONE AND THE SAME. We are Muslims wholly submitted to Him/Energy. (Quran 29:46)"
Do you even understand that there is an almost infinite probability that your god does not exist? Do you understand this?
"So what is the merit of your argument?"
The argument is best explained by the definition of atheism. Google Definition of atheism: "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods." To make it simple for you...you make the claim of a god, we do not believe what you assert, because of lack of proof of your god. Soooooo...please prove your god exists before adding further assertions, like god is love, or god is everything, or god is energy...Allah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
@doG "The argument is best explained by the definition of atheism. Google Definition of atheism: "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods."
We already make the claim long before you discover Electricity.
The Syahada
لا إله إلا الله
1. لا إله (NO GOD/Matter)
2. إلا الله (Only Energy)
"We already make the claim long before you discover Electricity."
So what...time has no bearing on the existence of your god dum dum.
Again...before you attach other assertions about your god and your mythical belief system, prove his existence.
I do not believe you are smart enough to grasp reality...all you have done thus far on this thread, is show your ignorance and fail to answer questions. Apologists like you are a dime a dozen, and all fail at reason, which seems to be a failure of thought solely perpetuated from religious indoctrination and belief. You are lost to delusion...you have deluded yourself and likely don't have the capacity to do unbiased research...too bad for you. Allah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Matheist, do you understand you are making a claim about something that (by your own admission) is not detectable or testable.
Do you understand that any fool can make an absurd unproveable claim and be laughed out of a room?
I can make the claim that invisible pixie farting unicorns created this universe. My proposition is just as foolish, and unproveable.
When you are deluded and can't reason even simple things, then...invisible pixie, farting, unicorns created this universe. Allah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
1. Please prove Energy does not exist.
2. Please prove you exist.
What is your proof?
Fail...Allah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
You are missing the main argument. Prove that this allah exists and is energy.
@David Killens "Prove that this allah exists and is energy."
1. Allah is Energy.
You can call Energy in any names you like. There is no issue when referring to the same attributes (He made all gods same god/attributes. (38:5) e.g. What's wrong pronouncing an "orange" as "narandžasta (Bosnian)"?)
2. Energy exist.
3. Therefore, Allah exists.
What is your counterargument?
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1. Please prove Energy does not exist.
2. Please prove you exist.
What is your proof?
@Matheist
"@David Killens "Prove that this allah exists and is energy."
1. Allah is Energy.
You can call Energy in any names you like. There is no issue when referring to the same attributes (He made all gods same god/attributes. (38:5) e.g. What's wrong pronouncing an "orange" as "narandžasta (Bosnian)"?)
2. Energy exist.
3. Therefore, Allah exists.
What is your counterargument?"
You are the one making the claim that allah is energy. It is not up to me to disprove your assertion, but for you to prove it. The burden of proof is on the claimant.
FYI just stating "allah is energy" is not proof, it is just an assertion. You need to prove that allah is energy.
Already did.
1. Energy exists, and nothing else. Everything is ENERGY.
2. >>You can call Energy in any names you like. There is no issue when referring to the same attributes (He made all gods same god/attributes. (38:5) e.g. What's wrong pronouncing an "orange" as "narandžasta (Bosnian)"?)<<
So where is your counterargument?
Proof?
Then you have failed to prove allah exists.
1. Can you objectively/empirically prove that there is an Allah?
2. Can you prove Allah is energy?
All you are doing is cherry picking quotes from your little book.
That is not a fact, that is called "talking out of your hole!"
Your only argument it is wrong to pronounce an "orange" as "narandžasta (Bosnian)"
Bigotry issue and there is no merit in it.
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My argument:
1. Energy exists.
2. Everything is Energy.
3. Ancient people call that Energy as Light
4. I call that Energy as Allah.
5. These people call Energy as:
Bangla: শক্তি
Bulgarian: Енергия
Chinese Simplified: 能源
Chinese Traditional: 能源
Cantonese (Traditional): 能源
Fijian: Kaukauwa
Filipino: Enerhiya
Greek: Ενέργεια
Hebrew: אנרגיה
Hindi: ऊर्जा
Hmong Daw: Zog
Icelandic: Orku
Japanese: エネルギー
Kiswahili: Nishati
Klingon: HoS
Klingon (pIqaD):
Korean: 에너지
Malagasy: Hery
Malay: Tenaga
Persian: انرژی
Russian: Энергия
Samoan: Malosi
Serbian (Cyrillic): Енергија
Tahitian: Puai
Tamil: ஆற்றல்
Telugu: శక్తి
Thai: พลังงาน
Tongan: Ivi
Ukrainian: Енергія
Urdu: توانائی
Vietnamese: Năng lượng
Welsh: Ynni
Therefore:
Energy is "1" ("the capacity for doing work")
Say, Energy, is One. (Quran 112:1)
He made all gods (energy) same god (one). (Quran 38:5)
We believe in what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to you, and your God ("the capacity for doing work", Energy) and our God (Allah, Light, Energy) is ONE AND THE SAME. We are Muslims wholly submitted to Him/Energy. (Quran 29:46)
matheist: "Bigotry issue and there is no merit in it."
What bigotry? The only bigotry I see is you calling us bigots for not believing in your ideas that are completely stupid, idiotic, inane, insensate, senseless, unintelligent, meaningless, brainless, deficient, mindless, moronic, ludicrous, naive, retarded, foolish, irrelevant, laughable, imbecilic.
If you are going to call us bigots for not believing your bullshit, then go somewhere else. We do not tolerate bigots on these forums.
rmfr
The official definition of Atheism
atheism. n. disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Conclusion
1. It is a religious claim, and not rooted in science, logic, philosophy etc.
2. The claim for belief in God (The Dawkin's Scale)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-WduYb4HSw
3. The claim for disbelief in God
4. The claim for without belief in God
(vs. not making a choice when everything has its causes and effects, IS A CHOICE - Burden of Proof)
* There are 320,000,000 Gods
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Therefore, the definition of Atheism asserts the belief in 320,000,000 Gods.
Atheism is a Religion (Hasty Generalization).
Fail...Allah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
@ Mateheist
(sorry Random)
Utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter bollocks.
Now back to playing with your alphabet bricks.
This made me happy! Lol
I'll just leave this here....
https://atheistforums.org/thread-58454.html
Banned there for spamming and potential botting. Or, at least if he wasn't a bot, he rarely directly responded to anyone, just posted the same thing as though that was an answer to the very thing that was being asked.
You are religious and have a doctrine.
You are an idiot, and have no brain.
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